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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
 | Subject: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:33 pm | |
| Greetings! I have an ethical question. I am a teacher in a very conservative area (three different schools actually) and therefore I have to dress "appropriately." I am older, too, which carries its own burden, but that's another issue altogether. My problem is, I would like to exhibit my Dark Side more, but can't and still keep my job. I wear a pentagram underneath my shirt and tie and carry several talismans that represent who I am as a Wiccan, but I'd like to represent my Dark Side and feel I can't very well. So, the only way I've found to express who I really am is through my artwork. The trouble is, is that enough? I'm bothered to think it isn't and need some advice. As I travel this path, especially since I want to rededicate myself to my Craft...especially my Shadow or Dark Side, I really need my mind put at some form of rest. Thank you for your help in advance  Take care and enjoy your evening. Dark and Sweet Blessings to one and all! |
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albinasamara active member

 Number of posts: 338 Age: 30 Location: Tri-Cities, WA ::  More Numbers: 1835837 Registration date: 2008-07-22
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:06 pm | |
| Hi witchartist,
Have you looked at the Corporate Goth website?
www.waningmoon.com/corpgoth/
There are a lot of ways to express yourself, just be creative about it. My advice is to soo what kind of dress code you have to adhere to and study it and know it inside and out.
Also it might depend on what grades you teach. I would think it would be harder with Kindergarten and Middle School children. (I only make that comment b/c my stepmom is also a teacher and she has said Middle School is the most difficult to deal with, and Kinders might be too young to wear all black with) |
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MoonRaven Moderator

 Number of posts: 9233 Age: 28 Location: Cherry Blossom tree :P :: Geisha ::  More Numbers: 1934016 Registration date: 2008-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:11 pm | |
| I wouldn't be much help. I work at a Catholic High School and I'm supposed to dress appropriately also. But I don't pay too much attention. I wear black clothes, dark make-up and nails. I wear pentacles and skulls and triquetras and gemstones openly. My tattoos are not covered. I have skull purses and bags. No one has said a word to me  Did you want to do something more than wearing just black?? |
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Vampira132 Moderator

 Number of posts: 4501 Age: 25 Location: London 1886 :: The Victorian Woman in Black ::  More Numbers: 1928206 Registration date: 2008-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:26 pm | |
| As I thrive for the Dark Side I have found some really interesting books that might be able to help you on enforcing your dark side.
Dark Archety Out of the Shadows Nocturnicon: Calling Dark Forces and Powers
And if you were ever interested there is always Luciferian Witchcraft by Michael Ford (a well known Luciferian).
Luciferian Witchcraft
Hope those can guide you in some way! _________________  |
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GhostRed active member

 Number of posts: 428 Age: 27 Location: Northern Virginia ::  More Numbers: 1834447 Registration date: 2008-07-23
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:20 pm | |
| Sounds like you work for a college if you work for three different schools as most grade-schools are a full time position. Have you gotten definite answers from your admins about your dress? Usually art teachers get away with a lot more than other disciplines would! |
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shortpsycho active member

 Number of posts: 476 Age: 22 Location: somewhere under the rainbow ::  More Numbers: 1829104 Registration date: 2008-07-27
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:53 pm | |
| I work for a coporate company, and I have to wear a uniform  but I learned that if i took baby steps they just think of it as normal when I walk into work with rainbows on my eyelids and in my hair. Same with skull earings and dark make-up... Baby steps.. |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:20 am | |
| Greetings! Thanks ...a HUGE thanks... to all of you for the ideas and support. I work at 3 elementary schools so the lengths I can go with my appearance is limited, yet I can do some things that are obvious, but not over the edge...just getting feedback from all of you helped tremendously! GhostRed, your reminder about the fact I am an art teacher and can therefore get away with a little more  is right on the mark (DUH, why didn't I think of that!) and Akasha, thanks...I forgot that the kids love something different and wouldn't necessarily be put off by what I might wear. I wear ties all the time so that might be one way I can express myself that wouldn't be out of character at all! Thanks, Vampira, for the book ideas, I can't wait to get to my local store and see what I can find. You've given me some great titles and some things to consider...must be why you're my Muse! Anywho, thanks ALL OF YOU! for the help. I'll keep you posted on what happens...at least I can go crazy at Samhain/Halloween!  Love and Dark Blessings to all of you. Have a wonderful day  |
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helen damnation Moderator

Number of posts: 5246 Age: 142 Location: Bedlam :: Satan's cheerleader ::  More Numbers: 1932866 Registration date: 2008-07-21
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 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:55 pm | |
| | witchartist wrote: | and Akasha, thanks...I forgot that the kids love something different and wouldn't necessarily be put off by what I might wear. I wear ties all the time so that might be one way I can express myself that wouldn't be out of character at all! Thanks... |
Of course~! You probably already know about this company, but just in case.... they can help you in your eccentric tie hunting...
http://cyberoptix.com/
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Apocalypse member

Number of posts: 227 Location: Temecula, Ca. More Numbers: 1808070 Registration date: 2008-08-12
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:03 pm | |
| Take a close look at Mr. Rozz Williams here and you'll notice his tie. It looks child/conservative friendly:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_cvZRpnpzzaw/SHLIkWKqJEI/AAAAAAAACEY/UPx3Aap67GI/s1600-h/Rozz11.jpg |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
 | Subject: Ties Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:13 am | |
| | Apocalypse wrote: | Take a close look at Mr. Rozz Williams here and you'll notice his tie. It looks child/conservative friendly:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_cvZRpnpzzaw/SHLIkWKqJEI/AAAAAAAACEY/UPx3Aap67GI/s1600-h/Rozz11.jpg |
It does! At first glance...and correct me if I'm wrong...it looks like Mickey Mouse! |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
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Succubus supernova

 Number of posts: 6201 Age: 37 Location: wrapped within the veil of darkness ::  More Numbers: 1785613 Registration date: 2008-08-29
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:15 am | |
| It is Mickey Mouse.  |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:17 am | |
| | Vampira132 wrote: | As I thrive for the Dark Side I have found some really interesting books that might be able to help you on enforcing your dark side.
Dark Archety Out of the Shadows Nocturnicon: Calling Dark Forces and Powers
And if you were ever interested there is always Luciferian Witchcraft by Michael Ford (a well known Luciferian).
Luciferian Witchcraft
Hope those can guide you in some way! |
Greetings! I stopped at my local Barnes and Noble, found one of the books you mentioned, but couldn't but it - not enough cash on hand. So, I will track it down tomorrow...I'm off to Maine for a few days of "de-stressing!" Thanks again and have a wonderful day! |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
 | Subject: Web site Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:03 pm | |
| | albinasamara wrote: | Hi witchartist,
Have you looked at the Corporate Goth website?
www.waningmoon.com/corpgoth/
There are a lot of ways to express yourself, just be creative about it. My advice is to soo what kind of dress code you have to adhere to and study it and know it inside and out.
Also it might depend on what grades you teach. I would think it would be harder with Kindergarten and Middle School children. (I only make that comment b/c my stepmom is also a teacher and she has said Middle School is the most difficult to deal with, and Kinders might be too young to wear all black with) |
I just had a free moment between working with kids and looked at the Corp Goth Website and it is cool, lots of great ideas! Thank you so much. I am actually wearing almost all black today...I took a chance And I mean it about your portrait! LOL |
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 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:14 pm | |
| ^You are such a sweetheart Witchartist.  |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
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Vampira132 Moderator

 Number of posts: 4501 Age: 25 Location: London 1886 :: The Victorian Woman in Black ::  More Numbers: 1928206 Registration date: 2008-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Lifestyles of the Rich and Gothic Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:55 pm | |
| [quote="witchartist"] I did Vampira as a Banshee, hopefully she has a chance to post it here for me since I am still limited in my computer use. [quote]
Damn Photobuckect isnt working for some reason, I shal try to post the artwork tomorrow. _________________  |
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witchartist member

 Number of posts: 73 Age: 55 Location: Williston, Vermont More Numbers: 1802753 Registration date: 2008-08-16
 | Subject: You are too kind Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:28 pm | |
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