Subject: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:13 pm
It's going to the Supreme Court now... but if it is verified, he will be pulled from the election, and we start ALL OVER AGAIN! (For those of you who are Bush-haters... this means him in office for another 6 months-year!)
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:22 pm
Isn't McCain neither a US citizen? (He was born in Panamá if I am not mistaken)
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:24 pm
He was born in Arizona.
EDIT: Scratch this -- I mis-typed. He was not BORN in Arizona, but he is recognized as being a citizen OF Arizona. Either way, that's not the issue. The issue is he is for certain a legit citizen... Obama MAY not be.
Nuff said. Carrying on now with the actual issue..
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:27 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
Check the facts, he was born on a base on the Panamá Canal
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:30 pm
Yes, but the Panama Canal was under American control at the time... thus, he is a US citizen by all law and regulation.
No need for the attitude, Jose. I'm not dense. And really.. Wikipedia is a poor "source" to use to prove someone wrong. I could easily go in there and change it to say he was born on Planet Oogla.
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:36 pm
has anyone else noticed that this whole thing was already called by the 2012 consperocy nuts and they claim that this whole election will be called off leaving bush in office because thats how the secret world government wants it and all that jazz?
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:38 pm
endless dark wrote:
has anyone else noticed that this whole thing was already called by the 2012 consperocy nuts and they claim that this whole election will be called off leaving bush in office because thats how the secret world government wants it and all that jazz?
Does this mean Democrats must choose another candidate or that the Republicans win by default?
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:22 am
Akasha, are you serious? You believe something posted on some random message board? Please tell me you don't actually believe that.
Obama was born in Hawaii. Last I checked, that is a US state, therefore making Obama a citizen.
Endless dark is right. There are a lot of lies, rumors and misinformation circulating on the internet and elsewhere about both candidates. And it pisses me off!!!
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:17 pm
To be fair Diva, I actually did not originally hear this alleged 'breaking story' on some random message board -- I heard it reported as a news broadcast on MSNBC.
This is the online version---> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26163679/
Looking further, I found this, a copy of his birth certificate---> http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
So he is safe~ ! It was just election rumours, as will often happen. I only passed it along because I thought it was an interesting little tid bit... the title line of this thread should probably have a "?" after it, seeing as how I was more or less asking your guys' opinion, rather than reporting a "fact".
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:35 pm
Know what? Nevermind messing with Obama and McCain....
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:02 pm
Akasha'sMistake wrote:
To be fair Diva, I actually did not originally hear this alleged 'breaking story' on some random message board -- I heard it reported as a news broadcast on MSNBC.
This is the online version---> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26163679/
Looking further, I found this, a copy of his birth certificate---> http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
So he is safe~ ! It was just election rumours, as will often happen. I only passed it along because I thought it was an interesting little tid bit... the title line of this thread should probably have a "?" after it, seeing as how I was more or less asking your guys' opinion, rather than reporting a "fact".
FYI: MSNBC copied that text from another site: http://www.woai.com/content/blogs/nobull/story.aspx?content_id=d9965739-c32c-4f5e-9abb-ad1071734156
It's good that you were able to find a copy of the certificate. I'm a stickler for cold hard facts and proof.
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:44 pm
Actually, I think there is a law that someone who was born from immigrant parents, the parents had to be living as a U.S. citizen for so many years before the child to be born can be considered to be eligible for presidency, and his father had only been a U.S citizen not too long before Obama was born.
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:38 pm
^^The US Constitution actually says: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The Constitution does not define what a natural born citizen is, but it has generally been accepted to be someone who is a born citizen; that is, any person born in the US is a natural born citizen of the US. A person born elsewhere to comes to the US and later becomes a citizen is not a natural born citizen; he/she is a naturalized citizen.
Obama was born in Hawaii USA, so he is a natural born citizen of the US, no matter where his parents are from.
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:23 pm
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:32 am
^^Very true.
From what I gather, Obama had very little contact with his birth father, so it's not surprising that he wouldn't be close with his half siblings living on another continent. How can he be responsible for relatives he doesn't even know?
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Subject: Re: Obama Not a US Citizen Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:22 pm
Well at least you guys get a properly elected leader in the States. We get a complete idiot who nobody has ever voted for and who dodges around any question of a leadership election because he knows he doesn't have a hope in Hell of winning it!
Sorry to sidetrack the thread but I just felt the need for a mini rant. I havent voted for about six years because nothing ever bloody changes. Different name, same crap policies
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